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Interview: Bobbi Jo Hart, Director of “Rebels on Pointe”

December 16, 2017 by Rachel Hellwig

Director Bobbi Jo Hart. Image courtesy of Icarus Films

How/when did you first become acquainted with the work of the Trocks?

I first discovered the Trocks several years ago when they came to Montreal to perform at Place des Arts. I saw an ad in the newspaper and was immediately intrigued by the photo of these men in ballet drag.

I did a bit of online research and couldn’t believe that I’d never heard of the company, who have been touring the world since 1974!

Then I was even more surprised than no one had ever done a behind-the-scenes documentary about them.

This is your first documentary on a dance subject. How was making this film different (or not) from your past work?

This is indeed my first film in the dance world, and, in fact, my first film with male main characters as well!

This year is my 20th anniversary as a documentary filmmaker, so I have spent some time this year reflecting on my filmmaking choices…asking myself why I am drawn to certain people and environments to follow and film.

It is now clear to me that my passion is observational documentary filmmaking.

I love to immerse myself in worlds and with people that I am often unfamiliar with, to build deep trust so I can follow in an intimate way, and then find the common human threads that connect these unique individuals and realities to a wider audience.

I am also a big fan of the underdogs in life…and love stories of determination and resilience.

My university degree is International Relations, so I also realize that with each film I am looking to bridge bridges of understanding to ultimately celebrate our shared humanity.

So the Trocks appealed to me because it was a world I knew so little about, and I wanted to learn more…and subsequently share what I learned with the public.

I also love uncovering untold stories that I feel the public should know more about, and the Trocks is definitely an example of this.

Dancers (left to right) Robert Carter, Philip Martin-Nielson, Chase Johnsey, Laszlo Major and Chris Ouellette. Image courtesy of Icarus Films

Tell us a little about the documentary’s style/format and how it tells the story of the company…

I am a cinema verite, observational filmmaker. In other words, I like to let life happen and hopefully catch narrative lightning in a bottle, so to speak.

I also had a wonderful editor to work with — Catherine Legault — who was instrumental in helping me structure the film in the editing room. Catherine was a dancer herself in the past, which was very helpful, and her timing and flow really added so much to the film.

I knew I wanted to juxtapose the company’s fascinating history with life on the road today, including some personal stories of a few of the dancers.

I have gravitated, over the years, to filming a lot of footage by myself, without any crew.

Although this is exhausting at times, it does allow for a deeper intimacy with the characters, not to mention quick mobility to follow the natural movements of characters at a moment’s notice.

Of course this can result in some technical challenges that my post production team help me correct as best they can (ie: colour, sound, etc.), but it also offers audiences a connection to the characters that is on a much deeper human level.

How long did it take to create this documentary? Were there any particular challenges with featuring a dance company on camera? Did you have concerns about losing certain elements of live performance?

From the moment I first discovered the Trocks, it took about 4 years to create the final film.

Some of the biggest challenges were trying to literally stay out of the way of the dancers, be it in rehearsal or during a live performance. They are professionals through and through, as are their incredible, skeleton staff who are the wind beneath their wings. I often had two cameras at live performances. I would shoot by myself backstage and a second cameraperson would be set up on a tripod out in the auditorium to film the performance itself.

I admit that there were a few times when the Associate Director and Production Manager Isabelle Martinez had to literally grab me by the collar and yank me in another direction so I wouldn’t get run into by a dancer zooming off stage into the wings, or to prevent me from wandering out on stage accidentally because I was so enraptured by filming what was going on.

But I think, overall, things went very well filming with the Trocks, and I developed such a deep respect for how hard they work on a daily basis to be such incredible dancers.

Where can audiences find “Rebels on Pointe”?

Audiences can check on our film website at www.rebelsonpointe.com to find the latest screening information, and we also post updates on the film Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/RebelsonPointe/

Filed Under: 4dancers Tagged With: Bobbi Jo Hart, dance documentary, dance film, Dance Filmmaking, interview, Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo, Rebels on Pointe, Trocks

Introducing… “Post Curtain Chat” With Matthew Powell

August 7, 2010 by 4dancers

4dancers is about to launch a new feature on the site–“Post Curtain Chat”, with Matthew Powell. Matthew has signed on to provide us with an untailored glimpse into the everyday lives of the dancers, teachers, directors, and choreographers who comprise the dance community of today. From hobbies, to food, to love life, to nightlife, see how these incredible talents like to spend their time once the curtain has closed.

Joshua Grant of Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo will be the first person to share some thoughts with us here. Be sure and look for this great new feature on Friday, August 13th.

In case you missed his interview on 4dancers, here’s a little bit about our new contributor:

Photo by Jordan Matter

As a teacher, Matthew was a faculty member with the Kansas City Ballet School, and has taught classes at institutions such as the Universities of Iowa and Alabama, The Rock School, Marymount Manhattan, and Ballet Academy East. He has taught company class for Kansas City Ballet and Alvin Ailey American Dance Theatre while on tour. Additionally, Matthew served as the company ballet teacher for the West Side Story International Tour.

Matthew’s choreography received a fellowship from the New York Choreographic Institute in 2006. He has choreographed for Kansas City Ballet and worked as Assistant Director to Dorothy Danner for the Lyric Opera of Kansas City’s production of Pirates of Penzance. Most recently, Matthew has been working with Morphoses as Ballet Master, teaching at Broadway Dance Center, and freelancing as a teacher and choreographer. http://www.matthewpowell.net/Site/Home.html

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Filed Under: 4dancers, 4teachers, Editorial, Studios Tagged With: Joshua Grant, Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo, matthew powell, post curtain chat

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